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Phil Migliarotti of
the National
Pastors' Prayer Network (NPPN)
- interviews Eddie Smith of the US Prayer Center
NPPN: Eddie,
explain the ministry of prayer that is connected to the "Get
Motivated" seminars ... In fact, explain the purpose and scope of
the seminars, too!
Well, Phil, first of all let me thank you for your longtime
friendship, your wonderful international ministry, and for this
opportunity to discuss marketplace ministry. Each year, the Get
Motivated Seminars, featuring speakers like legendary Christian
businessman, Zig Ziglar, "America's Mayor" Rudi Giuliani, former
Secretary of State Colin Powell, businessman Steve Forbes, former
U.S. presidents and sports heroes like former heavy-weight boxing
champion and pastor, George Foreman, fill the largest arenas in
America. These seminars, designed to encourage and inspire business
people in areas of sales, investing, and leadership were created and
are produced by noted Christian businessman Peter Lowe. I describe
Peter and his wife, Tamara, as evangelists who operate a business;
rather than business people who do evangelism, because although
billed as "motivational seminars," without question their heart is
evangelism. In fact, during each seminar Peter follows his personal
development presentation with a clear presentation of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ. In these marketplace seminars he invites tens of
thousands of the nation's "up-and-outers" to repent of their sins
and to receive Christ as their Savior and Lord. And each year
thousands of American business people register first-time decisions
for Christ.
NPPN: You are a pioneer in the prayer movement - Have you seen
anything that comes close to this partnership of marketplace
ministry and prayer?
Of the many wonderful and effective marketplace evangelism
ministries I see today, this most likely the largest expression of
marketplace evangelism in history. I know of none who on a
week-to-week basis compares. It's remarkable to see 15,000-20,000
(sometimes more) business people in a marketplace setting listen
intently to a presentation of Gospel.
NPPN: What have you learned in the prayer room about united prayer
across denominational and stylistic differences? Has the Church made
progress in the last 15-20 years at being better able to unite in
prayer for a common Kingdom cause?
As you know, Phil, in each of these events we set aside a room we
call The Power Center where we (Alice or I) facilitate all-day
onsite worship and intercession (Harp and Bowl) with approximately
25 local pastors and other praying people. The seminar company
provides the room, a keyboard and other necessary worship equipment,
free passes, staff badges for the day, their breakfast and lunch,
and a couple of free books. I call it a hands-on, marketplace,
prayer/evangelism workshop. It's an opportunity to be engaged in
prayer "in the trenches" to extend the Kingdom.
As far as Peter and Tamara Lowe and their Get Motivated staff are
concerned, those who serve in The Power Center are VIPs in every
way. The Lowe's attribute their remarkable business and ministry
success to the Lord's response to the prayer-investment of these
wonderful teams. Sometimes the speakers visit the prayer room for
prayer. And there have been verifiable miracles occur in direct
connection with our prayers. Our teams are not "pre-selected." Via
email we announce upcoming events and our need for praying people.
We encourage folks to register to serve using an Internet
registration form at
www.usprayercenter.org/seminars . The first 25 who register,
first-come first-served, comprise our team.
As you might imagine, the teams are always unique and distinctly
different. Each is a blend of races, ages, and denominational and
nondenominational backgrounds. There are different prayer-styles,
expectations, and approaches in prayer. One of our roles is to
welcome them, clearly explain to them the purpose for the day,
outline to them the procedure we will be using and why. It's not
unlike becoming "pastor-for-a-day." It involves setting the course,
encouraging, instruction, coaching, and yes, sometimes (though
rarely) correction.
It all begins by praying through the arena prior to the opening of
the doors. We've managed these prayer rooms for the past three
years, which represents more than 100 events. I can certainly tell
you that in the past three years I've witnessed a growing maturity
in intercession, prayer and spiritual warfare. Clearly, praying
Christians are…
more accepting and affirming of one another,
more specific and strategic in their praying,
less committed to the latest "techniques" and fads, and
more understanding of the purpose of prayer.
"Maturity." That's the word that comes to mind. And, as you suggest,
15-20 years ago prayer rooms like these would have been much more
difficult. For one thing it would have been harder to find people
willing to serve in this capacity. They wouldn't have known the
value of prayer back then. Sadly, prayer and evangelism were
"divorced" at that time. There were so many approaches then, and
everyone consider their approach the right one. Personal liberty was
elevated over corporate unity (in conflict with 1 Cor. 14). And, as
a rule, corporate prayer wasn't corporate prayer at all. At best it
was "individual prayer in a corporate setting." True corporate
prayer is today a colorful bud, beginning to bloom into a beautiful
flower that must certainly bless the Father.
NPPN: You are also an evangelist - What are you learning about the
role of prayer toward impacting the marketplace with the Gospel?
Perhaps our "prayerwalking friend" Steve Hawthorne is the one who
suggests that we pray where we want to see the answer come. I know
that when Alice and I were pastors of a local church in Houston we
didn't just pray for God to close the "gentlemen's clubs" (strip
joints). We literally divided the congregation into teams, piled
into vans (four to six people in a van) and drove to those clubs. We
parked on the outer edges of the parking lots and prayed. Our ladies
took Christmas gifts to the exotic dancers and blessed them. Then
the following week we scoured newspapers, radio and television
broadcasts, Etc. for any evidence that we had "hit the target." It
was strategic, productive prayer. When there was no indication of
our success we were honest enough to gather and admit that we had
missed. But there was great excitement and celebration when there
was measurable, discernable evidence that we had been heard in
heaven. As there was the week 27 clubs closed! We celebrated the
Lord for his faithfulness to hear and respond to us.
One morning an exotic dancer called from the parking lot of the
gentleman's club for which she worked. Alice and her prayer team led
the girl to Christ over the phone. She quit her job at the club, and
the last we heard she was attending Oxford University in England
completely her degree.
We witnessed to one successful businessman. He was so moved (though
unsaved) that he invited our church to come and pray through his
place of business. We did. God moved in powerful ways that night. In
the days that followed his business literally exploded. He became a
popular radio personality on one of the most powerful stations in
Houston. And one night, sitting on his patio with him and his wife,
we had the privilege of leading him to Christ! Due to his "radio
pulpit" his Christian testimony touches the entire city of Houston
today.
I believe prayer is the key to impacting the marketplace with the
Gospel. For too long we have overlooked the evangelistic
opportunities there. And when we did present Christ, we presented
the spiritual truths of the Gospel to spiritually blind people.
Presenting Christ is "Step Two;" effective, strategic, targeted
prayer is "Step One." I'm pleased to say that recently I've learned
of a mayor of one of the nation's largest cities; one of Hollywood's
most successful movie producers; and one who could quite likely be a
presidential candidate in the future have all come to Christ in the
marketplace!
If I were a pastor today I would spend three Saturday mornings
teaching my business people how to minister in the marketplace. Then
I would have an "ordination" service and ordain them to the
"marketplace ministry." I would give them forms to report monthly
how many times they shared the Gospel, how many prayer meetings and
Bible studies they conducted, how many converts they had and any
other things related to their ministry, including business
successes. I would "do what I see the Father doing."
NPPN: What fruit is resulting from these boiler rooms of prayer?
Phil, until I was 40 years old the churches I grew up in and served
as pastor or a pastoral staff member had three or more weeks of
intense church-centered evangelism each year. These week-long (which
later degraded to three-day) crusades included sermons on "the
second coming," "the cross," "the blood," "hell," and Etc. The
purpose? To make sure every church member was truly saved, and that
every child nine-years old or older knew Christ. In addition, we
conducted spring and fall city-wide evangelistic crusades in
football stadiums. Alice and I ministered in more than 800 of these
events in the 60s and 70s.
Suddenly, overnight it seemed, it became "un-cool" for pastors to
offer salvation invitations on Sunday morning following their
messages. In fact, the preaching of the gospel was replaced with
sermons on marriage, parenting, business ethics, and such. Even in
our prayer conferences and seminars Alice and I preach the gospel.
We are finding that many church folks have never truly been born
again. They talk the talk, but Christ isn't alive in them! This very
morning more than 30 adults in the congregation where I preached
came forward to trust Christ as their Savior. A couple of years ago
I spoke to one of the world's premiere youth ministries. That night
75 of those young people who had committed themselves to Christian
ministry wept their way to Christ. Their testimonies were almost all
the same: "I've made a decision for Christ in the past, but until
tonight I'd never encountered his transforming power. Now I know
He's alive in me!"
Alice and I have led pastors, ministers of worship, deacons and
their wives, and missionaries to Christ. One evangelist we led to
Christ wept and said, "I've seen thousands of people come to Christ
during my 19 years in evangelism. Every time I watched one of them
receive Christ and saw their transformation I wished it were me.
Phil, the long answer to your question is: the average church isn't
even engaged in evangelism among their own congregation, much less
their neighborhood, and city. Thank God for the exceptions. And
thank God he is beginning to move out of the church building and
into the marketplace. People are being led to Christ by their bosses
and work associates. At the Get Motivated Seminars, when Christians
see Peter Lowe's bold and effective presentation of Christ in a
public, business environment, they are convicted and challenged to
"come out of the closet" and be who God designed them to be. And the
nameless and faceless prayer-servants, worshiping and praying in
that hidden room we call "The Power Center" at each seminar Peter
and Tamara's ministry-partners. As they often say, "For years we did
it without you. We wouldn't want to ever do what we do again without
people praying onsite."
NPPN: Anything else prayer leaders and evangelists ought to know...?
Perhaps you've heard it said that in the 1950s God's spotlight fell
on the evangelist. Remember, Billy Graham was discovered in 1948 in
Los Angeles, California. Every young preacher boy in the 1950s
wanted to be an evangelist.
God's spotlight shifted to the pastor in the 1960s. It was in the
1960s that many of today's "mega churches" and "mega church pastors"
planted their roots. In fact, in the 1960s I saw many evangelists
leave evangelism to pastor churches. They couldn't have absolutely
known why they felt the impulse to do it. But looking back, it was
clear that God's focus was on the role of the pastor.
In the 1970s heaven's spotlight moved again; this time to the
teacher. The decade of the 70s was the decade of radio teachers and
cassette tapes. Christians woke up each morning with two or three
radio preachers they would listen to that day. If they were
Charismatic/Pentecostal their list included people like Oral
Roberts, Charles Capps, Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, and others.
If they were Evangelical their list included Chuck Swindoll, John
McArthur, J. Vernon McGee, and others. It was in the 70s that an
amazing teacher appeared, so it seemed, from nowhere. Without music
he filled the largest stadiums in the nation to capacity. With a
microphone and an overhead projector, Bill Gothard, anointed by the
Holy Spirit changed the course of American Christianity.
Then with the 1980s God's spotlight moved to the prophet. Suddenly I
had a problem. I thought prophets were consigned to the Old
Testament. I suppose I had concluded that God had written a
"Best-seller" and retired, having nothing else to say. I had
conveniently overlooked what he said in his "Best-seller," "he that
hath an ear to hear, let him hear what the Lord is saying to the
churches." I discovered that he hadn't stopped speaking, I had
stopped listening; or at least I'd relegated him to three subjects:
who to marry; what college to attend; and how much to put in the
offering. <smile>
I had no more adjusted to the idea that God was still speaking when
the spotlight moved in the 90s to the apostle. That was the biggest
shock of all. I thought there were twelve and they were all dead. It
had never dawned on me that there were still "fathers" (pastors of
the pastors) in the church and that their would be until the church
attains to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Last time I
checked, we're not even close! However, I do believe in God's "suddenlies."
I believe God has his church in the fast lane toward maturity. PTL!
WHAT IS THIS DECADE? There is only one thing left in Ephesians
4:11-13. It is for the saints equipped for the work of the ministry
to come out of the closet in the marketplace. Clearly there are
signs around the world that this has begun. The first six years, now
entering the seventh, we have seen remarkable, historic
transformations!
NPPN: Eddie, please write a prayer that we can all pray with you
that takes praying out of the church building and expands it beyond
the sick and tired prayer lists . . .
"Father God, we love you, your heart, and your intentions toward us
and toward all mankind. We repent for our failure to take you into
every area of our lives. We repent for not taking you to the nations
as we should have, and for being one-hour Christians who say hello
to you at eleven o'clock each Sunday and says goodbye precisely at
noon.
Today we commit ourselves to be 24/7 believers, engaged with you in
every part of our lives. Forgive us for considering prayer to be
little more than a tool to get what we need, a way to solve
problems, rather than an instrument with which to extend your
kingdom.
We've been problem-centered, not purpose-driven in our praying. We
have focused on 'these things' that you said would be added, rather
than focusing on 'the thing'-- your kingdom. We see it! When we pray
in your kingdom, our needs are met! When we make 'your thing' our
thing, you will make 'our things' your thing. We are getting the
picture. It's not about us, it's about you and about your kingdom.
We accept your challenge to carry your message into the marketplace.
We say 'yes' to your challenge to present Christ to the cab drive,
the delivery boy, our employees, fellow workers, and employers.
We ask you to once again light the 'fire of evangelism' in the belly
of the American church and pastor. We ask you to make your church a
blazing torch to which those who are wandering in darkness can come
and find life. And make us light-bearers that we may be torches in
the marketplace who bring light to those held captive in darkness.
We give you all glory, in Christ's name. Amen."
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